Home - Project Just Right
Chapter 1 - My goals and Requirements
Chapter 2 - Choosing the Boat to Build
Chapter 3 - Preliminaries, What I Did Before Starting
Chapter 4 - Setting up Frames and Building the Hull
Chapter 5 - Interior
Chapter 6 - Deck and Exterior
Chapter 7 - Topside Details
Chapter 8 - Keel, Centerboard, and Rudder
Chapter 9 - Mast, Rigging, Sails, Outboard & Anchors
Chapter 10 - The Electrical System
Chapter 11 - The Trailer and Trailering
Chapter 12 - Sea Trials and Cruising Pictures
Chapter 13 - Future Projects ... When is a Boat Finished?
Chapter 14 - Useful Information... Sources and Links
Chapter 15 - Questions and Answers
Chapter 16 - Other Vagabond Builders and Aficionados
Chapter 17 - A Few Good Ideas
Chapter 18 - Chapter 18 - Specifications and Equipment

Chapter 15 - Your Questions, My Answers

Q: What have you learned about painting epoxy coated boats?

A: Sam Devlin summed it up when he told me that he has spent almost as much time learning how to paint as he has learning to build boats. Sam spray paints his boats so those of us who plan to roll and brush may pick up pointers but still have to develop our own techniques. He strongly recommends using a barrier coating of Ditzler DP40 over epoxy before applying any other systems. He is currently spraying acrylic urethane but this product can't be brushed. Even though he paints many of his delivered boats in customer chosen dark colors, he suggests that light colors are better from the standpoint of not heating up the epoxy underneath. I plan to mix powdered aluminum in the top coats of epoxy on the deck surfaces.

I planned to use Interlux Brightside one part Urethane on the inside and topsides of my boat. When I read the instructions on the can for epoxy surfaces, it recommended calling the Interlux Tech Services (908-686-1300) for instructions. I will summarize what I derived from the phone call regarding recommendations for painting epoxy coating.

Above the waterline:

1. Cure epoxy 3 days to a week or more

2. Wash thoroughly with detergent and water

3. Rinse thoroughly

4. Wet sand with 120 before primer

5. Use 1-2 coats of polyamide (?) epoxy primer-two part

404-414 barrier coat

or 850- high build

6. Wet sand primer with 220

7. Can apply Brightside or two part LP

 Below the waterline:

 1. - 4. as above

5. Apply VC Underwater Epoxy Bottom Paint with Teflon. This paint has no copper but is hard and scratch resistant. Another paint suggestion if the boat is going in the water for longer periods is Micron CSC. The problem with most bottom paints on trailerable boats is that the toxic protection deteriorates if the boat is out of the water.

 Q: Jacques Mertens asked: Could you remind me of the charcateristics of the plywood you choose. I know it is 6566 Okoume but is it the Israeli stuff? Where do you buy it and how much do you pay? I have some sources but like to keep a list of them and you did a good market survey.

A: I chose Kelet Afikim okoume ply. I ordered from Sorensen Woodcraft who is a stocking dealer in California for Edensaw. I paid $1835 but some of the plywood I got was actually 1088 downgraded to 6566 because of small defects. All that I bought was equal plys or "multilam" in Kelet terms and cost slightly more. The regular 6566 may have unequal plys. He also gave me gave me some slightly lower prices than the price sheet based on what he had on hand. Buyers should call for price and delivery.

Sorensen Woodcraft, 13307 Ave. 22 1/2, Chowchilla CA 93610 Phone 209-665-2690 Order 800-891-1808

I rented a trailer and picked up the plywood last week. Daryl Sorenen sells kits for small hydroplanes. I found his prices the same or slightly better than Edensaw. He will ship orders and his quote for shipping to me was very competitive. He doesn't have an internet site yet. I would recommend him as a source for Vagabond builders who don't want to go through all the calling and research that I did. I am sure Daryl would make up a Vagabond plywood package and ship anywhere. In the end, the only way I found to beat his price AND availability would have been to use fir plywood.

After observation, my opinion is that qualitywise for BS 1088, Brunzeel is 1, probably Shell Marine is 2 and Kelet is 3. 1&2 were more than twice the price of 3 and I was not able to find a nearby dealer with a complete stock. I did not see any Joubert, but several who did felt that Kelet was better. The 6566 is probably an adequate quality for the composite construction and Kelet is available in that grade. Kelet apparently stopped production and Edensaw now sells Tal plywood.

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